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Post by Faridbak on Jul 2, 2009 20:36:12 GMT -3
Source: chinese-democracy.blogspot.com/2009/07/slash-karaoke.htmlWednesday, July 1, 2009 Slash Karaoke "Not impressed."  There isn't much to gripe about, but we ended up with a glorified karaoke in the amphitheatre for a somewhat goofy start to the festival. When the Guns N' Roses guitarist slipped onto the scene we got a lot of hits - and half hits - from the last decade, performed with a kind of respect, but with little extra. Ron Wood received points for attendance, but didn't perform as if he was completely present. When he and Slash were struggling to find the key of the backing vocals on old songs like "It's Only Rock 'n' Roll" you knew that this was going be a long and strange evening Slash surrounded himself with a group of halfway-decent performers, one of whom was John 5. The man has a long resume - David Lee Roth to Marilyn Manson - and he rubs his guitar neck with so much joy that it almost glows. But it ended like a version of Guitar Hero in "Advanced" mode. Fergie from the Black Eyed Peas was a breath of fresh air in between all the guitar solos, and she showed that she can stack-up to Robert Plant ("Black Dog") and Axl Rose ("Sweet Child O' Mine"), but she should really drop all the pole-dancing - it was in excess even for an audience that included a fair amount of people who were young when Bob Dylan's "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" came out. "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" was the only song dedicated to Michael Jackson, the rest of the concert was an obvious homage to so-called "Dad-Rock" - read: '70s and '80s guitar-driven hits. And in such a setting Slash has proven himself again and again. Almost at the very end we got the world's spookiest grandpa, Ozzy Osbourne, for a round of old Black Sabbath tunes. He was calm in the grandeur, as he sprayed the audience with water time and time again. |
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Post by Eusis on Jul 2, 2009 21:13:06 GMT -3
where did it took place?
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Post by Faridbak on Jul 2, 2009 21:31:10 GMT -3
I think it was in England
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Post by Sharon on Jul 3, 2009 6:07:40 GMT -3
It's perfectly ok for the former members to play songs of Guns N' Roses, and it's a way to please the fans of the old guns, but why on earth he keeps playing with Fergie? I am not being mean, but jesus, it's embarassing. How to hear Sweet child o' mine sung by Guns N' Roses and then by Fergie? It's ridiculous.
I respect Slash, but I'm sorry to say that with this thing to play with Fergie so many times, and play songs of Guns, shows what a public whore he is. It doesn't matter how he keeps in people's attention, the important thing is to be in the eyes of the public. This in my opinion is exactly what you can call fame whore. Has anyone seen Axl playing with Guns N' Roses and Rhianna for example?
I don't know what's wrong with Slash, why the hell can't he keep it all in dignity. I don't say it was easy for Axl to rise Guns N' Roses again after 1993, but he did it with dignity keeping on what the band has started. Slash should do the same and take a huge example from Axl. I haven't seen Duff playing with Britney Spears, not even Adler! And we can expect everything from Adler.
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Post by Faridbak on Jul 3, 2009 14:22:45 GMT -3
Its been sometime now since i came to terms that Slash likes to play like that, And if thats what makes him happy then so be it. It does bother me a bit to see songs butchered like that with fergie, she had sung it better the last time at least.
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Post by Eusis on Jul 6, 2009 21:26:39 GMT -3
It's perfectly ok for the former members to play songs of Guns N' Roses, and it's a way to please the fans of the old guns, but why on earth he keeps playing with Fergie? I am not being mean, but jesus, it's embarassing. How to hear Sweet child o' mine sung by Guns N' Roses and then by Fergie? It's ridiculous. I respect Slash, but I'm sorry to say that with this thing to play with Fergie so many times, and play songs of Guns, shows what a public whore he is. It doesn't matter how he keeps in people's attention, the important thing is to be in the eyes of the public. This in my opinion is exactly what you can call fame whore. Has anyone seen Axl playing with Guns N' Roses and Rhianna for example? I don't know what's wrong with Slash, why the hell can't he keep it all in dignity. I don't say it was easy for Axl to rise Guns N' Roses again after 1993, but he did it with dignity keeping on what the band has started. Slash should do the same and take a huge example from Axl. I haven't seen Duff playing with Britney Spears, not even Adler! And we can expect everything from Adler. i think Fergie and Slash are good friends, that's all. If you had a friend that played another music genre, why would you be sceptical about the matter of playin with him/her? i think that somehow, it unifies music itself as one single thing. not a big deal. Axl said once that he didn't understand why Slash was not taking care of his own musical reputation that he has built with so much effort. i don't agree with that, your friends are friends, you don't see them as professionals, you see them as people, good people in this case. Axl went to Madonna's birthday a couple of years ago and anyone said anything about it. i didn't care about it, why shouldn't he go to the party? he could've sung and make a great performance, that would have been cool. |
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Post by Sharon on Jul 7, 2009 3:13:58 GMT -3
well, Axl went at her party, didn't record a song with Madonna. And I can't agree with Slash playing with Fergie being a good or at least an ok thing, because first I haven't heard them to be friends, and even so it's not exactly a reason why he plays with her so oftenly. Maybe they got to know each other because she performed with him. And even so, everyone is allowed to have his own opinion, and I have mine.
There are some things that simply can't be messed up, no matter what friends you are. Friends are friends, but for this you don't have to mess things. Slash is Slash, he is an icon for most of the people,he is known mainly as former guitarist of Guns N' Roses, and Fergie is Fergie. This feels like struggling to keep in people's eyes no matter how, and this for me is called politics or publicity, because who doesn't know that nowadays the genre that rules the music industry is R'n'B, Hip-Hop.We are not in 80's-90's anymore when rock music ruled the world. And of course people like to see this and not that.
I didn't know that Axl said this about Slash-"Axl said once that he didn't understand why Slash was not taking care of his own musical reputation that he has built with so much effort" but I agree on that. I've said it from the very beginning. Because I appreciate and respect all the former members no matter they are not together anymore; I appreciate Slash as guitarist (he is the best guitarist I've ever seen and he'll always be for me), I appreciate Duff, Izzy.
And again, I haven't heard Slash being so close friends with Fergie like over night
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Post by Tarja on Jul 7, 2009 4:02:01 GMT -3
yeah, the thing about friendship could be like they became some kind of friends during these shows together, rehearsals. But I haven't heard either about Slash being friend of Fergie before. But to let this on one side, I consider it to be a mess. The fact is that Slash sings the same guitar parts no matter who is the lead vocals.No one can blame him as he does his part very good as always. But.. to choose Fergie like lead vocals for the old Gn'R songs is pretty much a bullshit. So I find this to be "I want to play and I don't care anything else" It's not that I have something with her, I just don't know anything about her but that's not a way of doing things. How about if Slash was "good friend" with I don't know.. let's say 50cent too? Would have he played Gn'R songs anyhow? No.. things don't work like this, based on "friendships" or stuff. Things don't work good if you made a mess out of them. No one stops you being friend with no matter who, but from friendship to music it's a long way. Axl went to Madonna's party, yes. That doesn't mean he played some songs with her.But as I said, you can be friend with no matter who, that's cool, really, and that means to appreciate a person, not doing a song with him/her. Music is music. And I think here Axl knows the importance of it while Slash seems to not. He just want to play some old Gn'R songs. My point of view
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Post by Monique on Jul 7, 2009 18:38:45 GMT -3
Fergie and Slash are indeed good friends, she even sang at his birthday party. However, they make an awful combo, I wouldn't want any rockstar playing alongside Fergie 'cos she's a disgrace to music in general. As for Axl and Madonna, I hope that never happens because I hate that old bitch  |
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Post by Sharon on Jul 8, 2009 5:26:23 GMT -3
I don't like Madonna either, but at least she didn't sing with Axl.
I didn't know Slash was such a good friend with Fergie. But as I said, friends are friends, I have nothing with that,but some things simply don't work together, as- he playing with Fergie.
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Post by Faridbak on Jul 9, 2009 14:00:01 GMT -3
I just had a scary dejavu
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Post by Eusis on Jul 18, 2009 23:17:25 GMT -3
well, Axl went at her party, didn't record a song with Madonna. And I can't agree with Slash playing with Fergie being a good or at least an ok thing, because first I haven't heard them to be friends, and even so it's not exactly a reason why he plays with her so oftenly. Maybe they got to know each other because she performed with him. And even so, everyone is allowed to have his own opinion, and I have mine. There are some things that simply can't be messed up, no matter what friends you are. Friends are friends, but for this you don't have to mess things. Slash is Slash, he is an icon for most of the people,he is known mainly as former guitarist of Guns N' Roses, and Fergie is Fergie. This feels like struggling to keep in people's eyes no matter how, and this for me is called politics or publicity, because who doesn't know that nowadays the genre that rules the music industry is R'n'B, Hip-Hop.We are not in 80's-90's anymore when rock music ruled the world. And of course people like to see this and not that. I didn't know that Axl said this about Slash-" Axl said once that he didn't understand why Slash was not taking care of his own musical reputation that he has built with so much effort" but I agree on that. I've said it from the very beginning. Because I appreciate and respect all the former members no matter they are not together anymore; I appreciate Slash as guitarist (he is the best guitarist I've ever seen and he'll always be for me), I appreciate Duff, Izzy. And again, I haven't heard Slash being so close friends with Fergie like over night i don't like your point of view, you're seeing musicians from just one angle: that they're musicians. they're people and reputation is an empty word, i don't care about Slash's reputation. i don't even care about my reputation. what is reputation anyway? i don't care about what others think i am because i know who i am. and i think Slash does the same. |
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Post by Faridbak on Jul 20, 2009 14:52:13 GMT -3
Or his wife told him to..
(sorry wthat was a cheap shot)
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Post by Tarja on Jul 20, 2009 17:04:38 GMT -3
i don't like your point of view, you're seeing musicians from just one angle: that they're musicians. they're people and reputation is an empty word, i don't care about Slash's reputation. i don't even care about my reputation. what is reputation anyway? i don't care about what others think i am because i know who i am. and i think Slash does the same. points of view are so different among people so you should try to understand that. people have different points of view. If you don't like it then what can that person do? Everyone says his/her opinion and not expecting anyone to agree with him/her. I personally don't expect someone to agree with me. I say my opinion and that's it. If someone doesn't like it then I don't have what to do. Change it because of this, never. And here we were talking from the proffesional point of view and not from the firendship one. No one said anything bad about them being good friends. That's cool. But music is music and that mess doesn't work. And you say that you don't care about reputation because you are pretty young yet |
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Post by Eusis on Jul 20, 2009 22:01:16 GMT -3
i don't like your point of view, you're seeing musicians from just one angle: that they're musicians. they're people and reputation is an empty word, i don't care about Slash's reputation. i don't even care about my reputation. what is reputation anyway? i don't care about what others think i am because i know who i am. and i think Slash does the same. points of view are so different among people so you should try to understand that. people have different points of view. If you don't like it then what can that person do? Everyone says his/her opinion and not expecting anyone to agree with him/her. I personally don't expect someone to agree with me. I say my opinion and that's it. If someone doesn't like it then I don't have what to do. Change it because of this, never. And here we were talking from the proffesional point of view and not from the firendship one. No one said anything bad about them being good friends. That's cool. But music is music and that mess doesn't work. And you say that you don't care about reputation because you are pretty young yet i never tried to make you think or to make Sharon think that i don't respect 'points of views', i guess you misunderstood that. we all need to be different to grow as a person and modify some aspects according to some sorts of bilateral satisfaction, do you know what i mean? i just said that i didn't like her point of view, i think you're seeing it from a very cold-not deep-not too emotional or whatever angle that could be named. let's say you felt hurt because you took the Madonna's party thing as an offense, and i just took it as a simple example. i don't like hurting or offend people. i just say what i think and if you don't like it you cant tell it to me and that'd be fine. why is that i don't know about reputation? because i'm young? i don't get it, i think you're messing thing up. i know music is music, that's why is see it as one. |
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