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Post by Tarja on Jul 21, 2009 7:20:08 GMT -3
You didn't get it. It's not an offence that Axl attened Madonna's party , I found it cool. Read again.
And I said that this is not like Slash & Fergie. The difference is that Slash performed with Fergie while Axl attended Madonna's party. So no reason for the comparison. Music is music and you have to appreciate its value. If you sing with I don't know who(see Fergie here) it ends up like you are making fool out of what the song was about in the past. And I agree with Axl in the fact that Slash is not taking care of his great musical reputation
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Post by Sharon on Jul 21, 2009 8:11:51 GMT -3
well, Axl went at her party, didn't record a song with Madonna. And I can't agree with Slash playing with Fergie being a good or at least an ok thing, because first I haven't heard them to be friends, and even so it's not exactly a reason why he plays with her so oftenly. Maybe they got to know each other because she performed with him. And even so, everyone is allowed to have his own opinion, and I have mine. There are some things that simply can't be messed up, no matter what friends you are. Friends are friends, but for this you don't have to mess things. Slash is Slash, he is an icon for most of the people,he is known mainly as former guitarist of Guns N' Roses, and Fergie is Fergie. This feels like struggling to keep in people's eyes no matter how, and this for me is called politics or publicity, because who doesn't know that nowadays the genre that rules the music industry is R'n'B, Hip-Hop.We are not in 80's-90's anymore when rock music ruled the world. And of course people like to see this and not that. I didn't know that Axl said this about Slash-" Axl said once that he didn't understand why Slash was not taking care of his own musical reputation that he has built with so much effort" but I agree on that. I've said it from the very beginning. Because I appreciate and respect all the former members no matter they are not together anymore; I appreciate Slash as guitarist (he is the best guitarist I've ever seen and he'll always be for me), I appreciate Duff, Izzy. And again, I haven't heard Slash being so close friends with Fergie like over night i don't like your point of view, you're seeing musicians from just one angle: that they're musicians. they're people and reputation is an empty word, i don't care about Slash's reputation. i don't even care about my reputation. what is reputation anyway? i don't care about what others think i am because i know who i am. and i think Slash does the same. I am sorry Eusis, but I won't shut my mouth and stop saying what I think because someone doesn't like my point of view. This is mine and I don't care who likes it or not. And I keep my opinion.And it wasn't about Slash's reputation as a person, it was about the status as a musician, he is an icon for most of the people who have him in their minds as former guitarist of Guns N' Roses. He can have as friend whoever he wants, Fergie might be a great friend or person, but I was talking about music .I could go on and supporting what I say for days, but I don't think it is worth because I have an opinion, you have one and everyone is free to have one. The fact that you think mine is wrong, that doesn't make it wrong. Peace? |
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Post by Faridbak on Jul 21, 2009 11:50:46 GMT -3
I think all you ladies are right.
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Post by Sharon on Jul 21, 2009 12:39:35 GMT -3
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Post by Faridbak on Jul 21, 2009 12:57:08 GMT -3
I can understand Slash's right to play with whoever he wants, what i dont get is why he keeps playing SCOM when he has said he didnt like playing that song, and why do it with fergie over and over again.
I really want to hear that solo album and I hope its good cause latly i havent heard that talent that he had back in the day as far as feeling and conection with his music.
Maybe it ha to do with him not being all that happy with VR (latest slash interview) and how he felt with scott.
So im looking forward to it
And i didnt know Axl had gone to madonas party lol
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Post by Sharon on Jul 21, 2009 13:19:04 GMT -3
I can understand Slash's right to play with whoever he wants, what i dont get is why he keeps playing SCOM when he has said he didnt like playing that song, and why do it with fergie over and over again. see what I was saying about being a keep-in-the-eye-of-the-people-no-matter-how whore, Farid? |
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Post by Faridbak on Jul 21, 2009 13:26:40 GMT -3
yes but i can also see it from another angle, that he has a family to suport and wants to take advantage of what he can to make ends meet.
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Post by Sharon on Jul 21, 2009 16:23:30 GMT -3
if you look at it like this yes, you can do anything you can for money. But then I think that Slash is not in a hard need of money, but who knows? with Velvet Revolver break
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Post by Eusis on Jul 21, 2009 22:15:27 GMT -3
what the hell is wrong with you girls? cant you just stop saying things that i've never said?
i never told you to shut up Sharon, i'm a sincere person and that's why i told you i didn't like your point of view. if we were friend and some day we'd go shopping and you decided to buy a t shirt that doesnt suit you, i would tell you the truth and this is the same. i don't like your opinion, i have another perspective of the matter.
is it bad being sincere in here? omg!!!
and of course your opinion is not wrong! it's as valid as mine.
Ok, so you were both talking about music. i perfectly understood that from the very beginning. and i sayd that I SEE MUSIC AS ONE, i listen to rn'r, my favourite band is GN'R but some people out there are yelling and screaming attending a pop concert, buying their band's new album, sticking a poster of Britney Spears agains the wall....we're all different and GN'R may be my favourite band but i'm not God so i cannot tell you if that's correct or not.
unify music, that's my point. why is that you throw so much rage to Fergie? she's a singer, she's an artists, ahe had sold out arenas. and people like her, what can we do?
think about you flexibility instead of watching the other's first.
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Post by Sharon on Jul 22, 2009 5:26:07 GMT -3
Eusis, I said that I won't shut up because someone doesn't like my point of view, not that you told me to shut up, it's more rethorical what I said.
It's not bad to be sincere, and I have no kind of rage against Fergie, I just love good and real music. Of course that it's true, there are so many genres in music, from dance to r'n'b, rap, pop, rock, classical, and of course, people who like other genre, and it's perfectly ok. It's not about that, it's like in rock or metal. There are very good rock bands and of course, bad rock bands. bands that make real music, and bands that can't make real good music. That's what I was talking about when saying that Slash+ Fergie is at least "shocking" considering who is/was Slash and who is Fergie(in music!). I am the most open-minded person, so it's not because I suffer from conservatorism that I say this about Fergie, it's just the fact that I love quality.
I have absolutely nothing against other genres of music, I am personally a Michael Jackson fan since 90's, because I love good music, originality, eccentricity and quality, and I loved to see Slash playing with Michael back in 90's. My problem with Fergie is that she is as any other r'n'b singer from nowadays- just moving her ass, showing as much nudity she can just to attract eyes for that if she can't do that with music, in my opinion she doesn't have a voice to sing, and almost 95% of the nowadays r'n'b singers and bands are exactly the same. They are tons, making the same music, no difference. I would have said that too if Slash played with Pussycat dolls, or other band like this. So no personal rage against Fergie, it's just the quality.
I hope that now I made myself understood in what I want to explain regarding Slash and Fergie and why I don't like it. But everyone can have another opinion, it's normal, and I have nothing with yours, Eusis.
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Post by Tarja on Jul 22, 2009 5:30:40 GMT -3
it is a peaceful discussion between some people with different opinions. I personally don't find wrong or I don't know how, Fergie's music. She can sell arenas (which I doubt but I won't discuss it as I don't care), she can have millions of fans(I am sure she has among teens or men eager to see some boobs or naked legs), but what I said is that Fergie together with the ex guitarist of Guns n' Roses is just a mess. That's how it looks like, that's how it sounds like. Her voice doesn't fit and not to talk about the way she's moving as she forgets she is not on stage with black eyed peas, you know? I really appreciate pop music (well, Fergie is not pop, she some kind of r'n'b i don't know). But I appreciate pop music and the best example is Michael Jackson who will ever be in my heart and I'll love him forever as he was the first person who opened the music world for me when I was just 5. But some voices, as Fergie's, does not fit a song of Gn'R, damn it. It sound just ridiculous. She can be the best of her genre but the choice to sing with Slash is just ridiculous. And Slash coud have thought it better before. There are many good female voices (and this is another thing which I find strange- why woman voice for songs sang by a man??), there are also gorgeous male voices all around the world, and he chose Fergie. Now, that's a mess. That's wat we were talking about
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Post by Faridbak on Jul 22, 2009 15:10:40 GMT -3
Cant we all be hippies and smoke the peace pipes
I love you all
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Post by Tarja on Jul 22, 2009 21:43:51 GMT -3
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Post by chacacool on Jul 22, 2009 21:52:52 GMT -3
here,i am with sharon and tarja
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Post by Tarja on Jul 22, 2009 21:55:11 GMT -3
*group hug* \/
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